Quick question, thrown to the list... Has it been Officially Decided that 1.3 will have shadow passwords by default? The reason I want to know is that shellutils supports shadow passwords if you've got 'em, and I want to know if it's worth compiling "su" to work with shadow on systems which use it. --Galen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [email protected] . Trouble? e-mail to [email protected]